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Granular distro preview is worth a look

By Preston St. Pierre on April 04, 2008 (7:00:00 PM)

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Granular Linux is a desktop-oriented distribution based on PCLinuxOS. Its primary goals are to be easy to use and user-friendly. With the new preview release of version 1.0, Granular has come a long way toward achieving these goals, and becoming a unique distribution with its own benefits and problems.

Upon booting the Granular live CD ISO with the default settings my test PC, which uses an old ATI Rage 128 video card, the system froze at the loading screen. A quick reboot and selection of safe VESA settings solved this problem with no fuss. Considering I can no longer get this card to work properly under Windows, I count it as a blessing when it runs under Linux. This is another example of how Linux breathes life into old hardware. Before bringing me to the desktop, Granular asked me to select my keyboard layout and network settings. It remembered and used the settings in the installed system without asking again, which pleased me greatly.

When you log in to the live CD desktop as root you'll see a shortcut on the desktop to install Granular. Since I was more interested in installation than using the distro as a live CD, I clicked on the shortcut and began an easy setup process. Granular asks only a few questions, such as which partitions to use and where to mount them. It took about five minutes to copy the files over on a 1.60GHz Pentium 4 system with 512MB of memory, which made for an extremely decent overall install time of less than 15 minutes, including the first freeze. Before rebooting, I was asked to configure the boot loader settings, along with the root password and any user accounts. Under advanced settings there were options to set up authentication to an LDAP server, NIS server, Windows domain, or Active Directory via Windows Services for Unix or Winbind. Home users can generally ignore these, but business users may find them useful. I added my regular locally authenticated user and rebooted to the freshly installed system.

Granular supports two menu styles, KBFX and Kickoff, and you must select which you wish to use. KBFX is the Granular-style menu, and Kickoff is SUSE style. Nevertheless, Kickoff is noted as the recommended menu style; the 1.0 preview release notes say it's now the default menu for both root and guest desktops, so I selected Kickoff. While the default desktop is KDE, E17 is also available for selection at the login screen.

Upon logging in I was informed (as happened during the live boot) that the aRts sound server could not be started. When I tried HardDrake, the included application used for hardware configuration, it correctly detected my onboard AC'97 audio and claimed it was working properly -- but aRts still refused to start. I tried selecting OSS and ALSA instead, to no avail. I ran alsaconf, which claimed to have correctly detected and configured the card and made sure ALSA was the selected sound system, but still had no luck. After noting on the Granular's Web site that this version of the distribution is the first to feature its own repository (instead of using the PCLinuxOS repository) I opened up Synaptic and ran a full upgrade, which worked properly but did not provide me with sound. Evenutally I installed a new downloaded copy of OSS, which finally solved the problem.

With sound working I went on to check whether my movies would play. They did, without issue, in the default movie player Kaffeine. MPlayer was also installed as an alternative, as was TVTime for video capture cards. For playing CDs Granular includes KsCD, and Amarok for more in-depth audio playing needs. KWord, KChart, KPresenter, Kivio, KSpread, KPlato, KFormula, Kugar, KThesaurus, and Kpdf are included, making a complete office suite to cover all your needs. The Kexi database designer, Kate text editor, and KRegExpEditor are handy for those inclined toward programming. If you're just inclined to play games, you'll find almost three dozen games of various types included. Firefox and Thunderbird handle your Web, email, and newsreading needs.

The mklivecd scripts included with Granular allowed me to make an ISO of the updated system, giving me a live CD in which sound worked, which I could use if I wanted to reinstall Granular in the future. Although difficult to find in a list where there is a System Menu menu, a Settings menu, and a System menu (in which different applications handle similar tasks), the Granular Control Center, located under System -> Configuration -> Configure Your Computer, is also a useful application. It is based on the PCLinuxOS Control Center, which is in turn based on the Mandriva Control Center. It's not clear from Granular's Web site what has been changed as compared to the PCLinuxOS version of the control center besides the name, but it is still an easy way to configure many aspects of your system. If you already know what configuration files to edit and which changes to make, you may not need the Granular Control Center, but if you're tired of trying to keep up with the latest updates and just want a GUI to it for you, or you simply don't want to bother learning what goes on under the hood, this utility will ease your life.

With a single CD's worth of included programs, Granular Linux manages to cover a significant portion of normal end user needs, and those applications not already installed can be easily added through Synaptic. The slight problem with video and more serious problem with sound of my machine suggest that Granular is not without its issues, especially when most other distributions work properly on this hardware, but as this is a preview release of version 1.0 I think it can be more or less forgiven. I'd definitely recommend Granular to anyone with an interest in trying out a new distribution.

Preston St. Pierre is a computer information systems student at the University of the Fraser Valley in British Columbia, Canada.

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 85.180.221.170] on April 04, 2008 10:40 PM
maybe i just didn't saw it, but what makes it unique from PCLinuxOS?

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Five minutes of my life...

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 76.246.56.177] on April 05, 2008 06:54 AM
...that I'll never get back.

Seriously... are you part of the Granular "development team"? Are they paying you? WHAT is your motivation?

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Granular distro preview is NOT worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 71.237.210.28] on April 05, 2008 07:17 AM
Instead of "yet another new distro" why not focus on improving package management and/or ease of use on something that already has a larger code base. If it is "based on PCLinuxOS" or Mandriva why not put the focus into improving those. Personally, a few derivatives of Ubuntu don't bother me as the core stays mostly the same although experience says install Ubuntu first the apt-get the flavor you want. Fedora & OpenSuse should partner together to get more done though the "parents" of each (Red Hat & Novell) do contribute greatly. The mess that is RPM is annoying. Also, give the user the option to tell the distro to get out of the way of helping sometimes. That's a big part of the reason I lean towards Arch, Gentoo, and Slackware. All the hand holding gets quite sickening.

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Re: Granular distro preview is NOT worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 84.90.17.147] on April 05, 2008 03:49 PM
I agree. IMHO, Linux will never conquer the desktop "market" while there are so much distributions, often derivatives of some other...
When anyone asks me what distribution to install I can never tell unequivocally which one, although I often recommend Ubuntu or one of their counterparts ({X,Ed,K}Ubuntu)...

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Re(1): Granular distro preview is NOT worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 69.23.117.242] on April 07, 2008 03:54 PM
Does anyone else see the irony of someone that complains about "derivatives" recommending Ubuntu?

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Slackware

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 202.27.218.180] on April 05, 2008 09:40 AM
One fundamental rule with computers is that whenever possible, the human should not have to do the work of the computer.
Computers are machines. They automate stuff, like package management. Thats how it's supposed to work. Go play tag with some trucks on a freeway if you don't like it.

Slackware violates the above rule, and as such is a waste of space masquerading as a Linux distribution. It shouldn't be used by anyone, let alone computers.

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Re: Slackware

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 98.140.130.81] on April 05, 2008 10:14 AM
... Slackware is one of the finest distributions available. Its simple, clean and gives the user complete control and power of what they want their OS to do. It doesn't force anything upon the user like most distributions. Thats the beauty of it, thats what makes Slackware the distribution for users who want more then what they are just feed.

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Re: Slackware

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 68.58.100.201] on April 05, 2008 01:26 PM
Firstly, Slackware is one of the most stable and finest distributions available. Secondly, why bring up Slackware when the article was about Granular?

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Re: Slackware

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.8.67.172] on April 05, 2008 06:30 PM
This post had to be from a newbie that probably never used anything other than Ubuntu and Windows, and doesnt know anything about Linux. Slackware is definitely one of the best Linux distros, because it just works and is not hard to setup for anyone that is semi-intelligent.

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Slackware

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 89.136.243.243] on April 05, 2008 11:07 AM
Clearly some people doesn't get the Slackware philosophy, and as most people that don't get it, like to talk really loud about it. You can create those automated stuff and for most of the time, there is linuxpackages.net? or slackbuilds? heh, same as society, some like to be the masters some like to be the slaves :-)

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Re: Slackware

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 121.73.89.28] on April 05, 2008 11:52 AM
Yes, and when that tested, roll-backable, auditable, managed system doesn't work, there's always /usr/local/

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 62.165.186.90] on April 05, 2008 11:15 AM
The control center includes exactly the same tools as Mandriva Control Center but menus has arraged new way and icons has switched to "better" versions.

I use Mandriva on desktop and PCLinuxOS on my laptop and only difference what can be found easily is PCLinuxOS use APT as package manager but Mandriva own URPMI.

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 79.126.128.110] on April 05, 2008 01:51 PM
Why use all those Mandriva forks, when Mandriva is good as it is. Why use all this derivative distros... I just don't get it.. They don't offer nothing revolutionary, just changed names and artworks.

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 71.115.62.45] on April 05, 2008 02:54 PM
dont like it dont use it

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 203.208.110.183] on April 05, 2008 05:56 PM
Boring...

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 59.92.26.197] on April 05, 2008 06:45 PM
Linux is about freedom..is n't it?...then Why pour hot water ? how many of the users here commented after actually installing 'granular preview' in their system?..Here I am having six distros along with Windows Vista in my Comapaq presario V3000 laptop, and finding Granular preview' extremely beautiful in its KBFX menustyle, overshadowing the mighty Pclinux OS2007, by its performance, I am eagerly waiting for its full version.. ofcourse, without OOo suite it sucks, but when synaptics Package manager is there to fast down load the require packages from my adsl line, it is simply roacking

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.8.67.172] on April 05, 2008 06:47 PM
All these distros based on a distro that is based on another, are a waste. Most the time do not work as good as what they are based on. I think all we need for distros is Debian, Fedora, Slackware, and Gentoo. All the rest don't add much besides boot screens and wallpaper.

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The problem with sound on Linux

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 129.32.8.4] on April 05, 2008 07:49 PM
I'm glad sound eventually worked for you.

What frustrating is that the multi-step, low-feedback, eventually-download-new-software experience you describe is typical for getting sound to work.

I say that as a long-time user and permanent newbie, who uses Linux near exclusively and finds the various tradeoffs perfectly acceptable in the long run :)

Whenever I try a new distro, though, it's always an adventure (at least a guessing game) to get sound working, and I end up trying every variation of OSS, Alsa, etc. (And because of some old distro that just didn't work at all, I have a Creative sound card in there in addition to my machine's integrated sound card, so I get to try a lot of things twice :))

I hope one day a distro will offer a "Cycle through the options?" button, so I can hit one button to start a test process, and then hit it again when sound emerges from my speakers.

timothy

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 222.127.121.90] on April 06, 2008 01:16 AM
Debian, Fedora, Slackware, and Gentoo? These distros all require some linux preexperience to be able to configure properly.

Why not throw in at least one newbie-friendly distro. Long before Ubuntu came into the picture, Mandrake was the pioneer in newbie-friendly and I think Mandriva should be in the list of "basic" distros. All distros that claim to be newbie-friendly have stolen ideas from Mandrake/Mandriva in one way or the other.

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Re: Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.151.92.5] on April 06, 2008 07:27 PM
I dont think that distro derivatives are a bad thing unless you go into excess. For example, PClinuxOS drives for the newbie crowd, the new Ubuntu derivative, PC/OS drives towards the creative types and developers, and Zenwalk strives to make Slackware a little more friendly. So I can understand the derivative if it serves a purpose and while I wont ever use Granular, I switched from PCLOS to PC/OS, I agree in the way that I dont understand terribly where they are going with it.

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.8.67.172] on April 07, 2008 07:15 AM
Its much easier to make a new distribution based on an already good one, than to write an application or driver or something useful. To make a distribution you dont need programming skills, maybe just a little scripting knowledge, and the ability to set up a web site for people to download. There is no reason to make a new distribution based on Ubuntu or PCLinuxOS. They are already easy enough to use. It would be so much better if people would join with the already good distributions and help to improve them, than making their own.

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Negativity, Negativity... Tsk, tsk...

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 142.176.85.136] on April 07, 2008 04:54 PM
Too much negativity...

Lots of distros is A-ok. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't like GUI controls for stuff that you know how to control by command line, don't use a distro aimed at people who can't use the command line.

Not all car drivers are mechanics, you know.

Regarding the plethora of distros in existence... First, there are so many possible choices in linux that one distro cannot possibly cater to everyone's tastes. Making a decision to move one way removes the option of moving the other way.

Look at cars... There are only a few basic types of cars - sedan, hatchback, station wagon, mini-van, SUV, pick-up, etc. Well, couldn't it easily be said that if all the car makers banded together they could make better cars??? But then, all the different possibilities would be limited to only one final form - the FordNissanChryslerToyotaMitsubishiGMetc 4 door sedan. Boring, to say the least, and not enough variety to suit everyone's needs and aesthetics.

Linux is the same... We need variety... We need choice... I use KDE, Kubuntu is poor compared to Mandriva and PCLinuxOS that focus on KDE. If you choose XFCE, you likely want to work with a distro that focuses on it. "Jack of all trades, master of none." Apparently Ubuntu is great, but since I don't like gnome and Kubuntu has issues, I stick with the others I mentioned.

For those who mentioned there should only be 4 or 5 basic distros, get your head out of your hole! There are some really nice new distros with great concepts out there: gOS (I don't like all the "googlization" of it - most "applications" are just web links to google sites, but it is a really cool distro), and another Polish?? distro with a really interesting desktop management layout/concept. If distros were limited to only 4 or 5, the user who is not a command-line guru or GUI customization power user will be limited to the choices made by the 4 or 5 distro's top decision makers who become dictators in their own right, similar to M$.

So, just like most car drivers are not mechanics, we need lots of different distros that offer different environments to allow for user choice. If a distro sucks, I am sure it will soon cease to exist. If it is worthy, even for a small few, I am sure it will endure. Also, the creativity allowed by the very nature of multiplicity in linux allows people working on their own small or large distro to make innovations that the whole community can benifit from.

And for those who think "if you don't know command line, you shouldn't use linux" - get off your high horse and don't be so elitist!!! Cars are for drivers, not for mechanics. Mechanics exist because drivers of cars exist and cars need maintenance. Computers exist because users exist and that is why programmers and computer techs exist - to support the users' needs.

Don't forget this.

IMHO

D.

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.8.67.226] on April 07, 2008 06:29 PM
well said, the distros i prefer not many have heard of. I prefer the less newbie friendly distros that allow me to basically build it myself. If the only choice we had was Ubuntu, I would have to leave Linux and go to some other obscure OS. Choice is good.

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.16.144.21] on April 07, 2008 07:07 PM
No, too much choice IS NOT a good thing, as clearly noted by the famous scholar on youtube..google it if you dont know about it as it makes it abundantly clear that too much choice aint necessary a good thing at all.

Stop spewing nonsense.

I agree with above posters, that if you want to have the 'spotlight' of OH LOOK WHAT I CAN DO!!!' then write a module and if thats not enough, make sure when you make a new distribution that is because that feature you want is more than just about oh this app isn't there waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

Get a life already .

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 98.193.121.58] on April 08, 2008 12:51 AM
Preston,

First we would like to thank you for providing a fair and honest review for the preview release of 1.0. I myself found it to be very accurate as to the current state of the release.

I was currently working on a new version of the control center to include, an icon set that matches our default theme. There is a testing version available in our repo, and if you're interested, please check it out. The next updated rpm will include the version information, and possibly some of the additions to the program. Our control center, from the version included with the preview release. is a modified version of Mandriva's control center. The version is 10.18.1, so it should differ from the pclos version. There is nothing wrong with the pclos version of the control center. The upgrade was simply with the future in mind.

The sound problems in my opinion are an accurate assessment of the sound system. The problems have already been address, and an updated kernel will be available in the repo's within the next day or so. I hope it will help to fix the problems with your realtek sound card. It should now be covered.

Also just a few thoughts concerning all of the very interesting comments posted. And from Granular's perspective. We are simply a small group of people who share in the same thoughts of what a Linux Distribution should be. We also believe that it should be shared with anyone who is interested in using it. Granular is unique in quite a few different ways, and giving it a try as you have, will only make those unique differences more apparent. As far as my personal opinion on the number of Linux distro's. I would have to say I hope everyone in the world obtains the knowledge to create and maintain their own Linux distro. And if they choose to share it with others, and have the means to do so, then I hope they can accomplish that as well. As long as they maintain the free and open source perspective.

Sincerely,

Chris Zurawski

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 71.115.34.88] on April 08, 2008 06:48 AM
I think the venom aimed at "respun" distros is just user frustration with things that should work automatically in linux by now,like
sound and X[even Ubuntu can't configure my damn videocard right].This is stone-age stuff and newbies should not have to be
dropped to a bash shell by some "user-friendly" distro.For terminal junkies what do you even need a modern computer for?If all
you want to do is type at a command prompt a Commodore 64 should be all you need.I don't mind configuring an install to get
it how I like it but the basic crap like sound,video,wireless,etc.,should not take a guru to set up.Having said that I see no prob-
lem in so many distros-the innovative ones will rise and the mediocre ones will fade.It's better than being force-fed a dull,expen-
sive OS like winblows.And why we are we complaining about something that is free anyway?

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.59.156.195] on April 08, 2008 01:15 PM
Yet another "me too" distro, and yet another "me too" review. Who cares about installation? Any enduser can install most Linux distros. Who cares what software it installs by default? The repos of most distros have the same set of software, so even if a particular package isn't installed by default, it's only a few clicks away via the package manager. Who cares whether it installs restricted codecs? You can install those on any distro, and surely, just because a distro doesn't do that by default, that's no reason to create an entirely separate distro. Who cares what the desktop looks like? Desktop themes can be changed upon all distros.

Stop writing "me too" reviews about "me too" distros. If the distro doesn't have some truly unique feature that is just not available upon other distros, or would be very difficult to realize on other distros, then either don't waste time reviewing the distro, or simply say "this distro offers nothing that you can't get from most every other Linux distro out there". That is _much_ more valuable info than a review that belabors minor, relatively irrelevant differences with every other distro out there.

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 134.174.149.186] on April 09, 2008 04:41 PM
"We are simply a small group of people who share in the same thoughts of what a Linux Distribution should be. ... Granular is unique in quite a few different ways, and giving it a try as you have, will only make those unique differences more apparent."

Then this is a bad review, since it does not tell us what is unique about your distro at all and what those thoughts about what a Linux distro should be like are... There is nothing wrong with having many distros out there --- derivatives of the major distros could be great platforms for innovation. Only they usually aren't: there is nothing innovative and interesting about them. Same desktop environments, same set of applications. Those of us who have a life will stick with the major ones. What reason is there to try Granular or similar derivatives?

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 131.35.138.10] on April 11, 2008 12:12 AM
Having choice in distros is about the freedom of personal preference, for example I felt comfortable with Ubuntu, Mint, Mandriva, and PCLinuxOS, however I feel very comfortable with Granular. This is a matter of person preference and may differ from person to person. Having many distros to chose from makes this possible. We all are fortunate to have such choice. The only way to find your personal preference and comfort level is to try different distros. Should you try Granular? Only if you feel so inclined and if it might strike your fancy. Reviews like this truly help us determine if a particular distro may be worth a look. So, folks why complain about too many distros or about derivatives? Each one is only trying to make a better product, and each new distro may certainly be that new and different product for someone. Just as this distro has become my personal preference each new distro may be new and exciting to someone out there just as well.
Dennis

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 98.193.121.58] on April 12, 2008 07:01 PM
Very well said, Granular and similar Linux Distributions are all about freedom. Freedom of software, freedom of choice, and just freedom to use what you would like to use. All of the negativity is just a bad thing for Linux and free software in general. So instead of putting down other Linux Distributions, why not focus on something positive. Also how much more negative can you be, buy telling the author to stop writing reviews. So you really want someone who is going out of their way to spread the word, and news of Linux to stop. Hmmmm yeah, I am pretty sure that won't be good for anyone. So just a recommendation maybe look at all of your own negativity and please stop telling authors like this to stop writing reviews. These are accurate and good reviews, and I hope that no one coming over from Windows or Macintosh would take your comments seriously. Because let's face it, you are really not helping to bring new users to Linux now are you?????

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Granular distro preview is worth a look

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 74.233.77.29] on April 17, 2008 03:17 AM
I think the ability to spin your own completely custom LiveCD (whether the hard way or through future custom GUI builders) will help capture the imagination of today's Windows user.

Several distinct distros for every human on the planet is the future and is actually trivial to accomplish today (just tweak a few settings and burn .. assuming the used model would handle the particular tweaks).

Gazing into the future, I see many people everywhere periodically spending hours at a time refining their systems as well as occasionally contributing to building common community distro flavors taylored to all sorts of interests. And these dresses will also be at the app level (eg, I want mplayer to feel like xine (or vice-versa) or like some other custom thing I create).

I can see people moving to new jobs and rather than fighting with the apps and interfaces there, they just get a list of the "standards" and plugins that are needed, and then they put that information into their little iso builder to produce a desktop that will allow them to carry on with their tasks (which may involve learning features they have never seen before or used) but with an environment in which they are familiar and which works as they desire for all the common stuff (and which has the right defaults and other custom bits set to their liking).

http://thetuxproject.com/node/306

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