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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

By Bruce Byfield on September 05, 2008 (9:00:00 PM)

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Eight years ago, computer stores stocked a choice of GNU/Linux distributions -- established ones like Caldera, Red Hat, and SUSE, and newcomers like Corel, Progeny, and Stormix. Now, only Ubuntu and openSUSE offer box sets, and both face challenges that other distributions found unsolvable, ranging from reasonable prices and features sets through to getting into distribution channels and finding the right marketing approach -- all for an effort that may be only moderately profitable at best, and perhaps best undertaken for non-financial reasons.

Each vendor begins by learning from previous efforts to sell GNU/Linux in retail channels. Gerry Carr, a product manager at Canonical, Ubuntu's commercial side, suggests that past efforts "have been set at fairly unrealistic prices," by which he means $100 or more -- prices near to those for a Windows upgrade. "People need to see a significant price saving if they're going to make a leap from the known," he says, pointing out that the Ubuntu box currently available from Valusoft is on sale for a mere $20. He further suggests that, as a modern distribution that emphasizes usability, Ubuntu is a more attractive product than its predecessors.

At $60, openSUSE is more expensive than Ubuntu, but as a more established product, perhaps it can afford to be. Still, Joe Brockmeier, openSUSE community manager and a former Linux.com editor, says, "If a boxed version is going to be successful, it needs to offer something above and beyond what users can get by just downloading Linux." Both vendors' currently available retail boxes provide that extra in form of a manual and installation support (60 days for Ubuntu, 90 days for openSUSE). Both, too, make a point of listing the software included in the box.

Getting into distribution channels

Another challenge for distro vendors is to deal with the dilemma of retail distribution: distributors are reluctant to carry a product from a company unknown to them, yet unless you can persuade a distributor to do business with you, you can never become known. This is not a problem for openSUSE in Europe, where it the successor to the long-available SUSE retail box and is "very popular," according to Brockmeier.

However, it is a problem that openSUSE has not managed to overcome elsewhere. "We no longer sell the retail version in North America," Brockmeier says, "due to the extra costs associated with placing the box in retail stores like Best Buy." Instead, the box is available through Novell's online store.

In addition, Brockmeier that "there are some up-front costs in terms of actually creating a box set and developing a sales channel. Then there are the costs from retailers like Best Buy that want vendors to pay or give major price breaks in order to have their products appear in the weekend ads in Sunday papers. Then there are the return costs, warehousing costs ... it gets expensive, and unless there's a massive demand, it's not really worth it."

By contrast, Ubuntu has largely sidestepped the dilemma by partnering with Valusoft, a company already known to wholesale distributors. "Valusoft has done a wonderful job of getting us on to Best Buy shelves," says Carr. "I don't think we could have done that -- or at least it would have been a huge amount of work for us to get into Best Buy, who don't know us. It would take months and years of going door to door to get distributions rights, and maybe it just wouldn't happen. It's the benefit of partnering that gets us on to the shelves." Besides providing the software, Canonical's main involvement is to approve packaging and plans developed by Valusoft.

Marketing a retail distribution

Commercial attempts also imply marketing. "An operating system typically isn't an impulse buy, right?" Brockmeier says rhetorically. "I don't think most people will make the decision to switch OSes when they're browsing the software setion of Best Buy or whatever -- they need to want to switch, and then seek out the software. So just placing Linux in retail sections isn't good enough. It would really help if there were some mainstream advertising and momentum behind desktop Linux."

Carr agrees. "It's a huge challenge to us: How do you persuade ordinary users to use Linux, which they're not familiar with? We probably need a more simplistic message than we would deliver to an open source crowd." For instance, instead of talking about kernel versions and update cycles -- "none of which matters a damn to the consumer," Carr suggests -- commercial distributions need to talk about benefits to the user, such as stability and security.

At the same time, Carr sees product differentiation as critical, both in mass advertising and on the box itself. "You have to be careful about Linux in retail. You need to sell it appropriately, to let people know that they're not buying Windows, that it's a different operating system and has its own -- shallow -- learning curve. One of the things we've been very careful about in approving the box that Valusoft uses is to make sure that the average consumer isn't confused about what he's buying or thinks that he's buying a Windows replica." For this reason, the copy for the Valusoft immediately identifies Ubuntu as "an alternative operating system to Windows," and lists some of the other programs that come on the CD, so that potential buyers understand what they are purchasing.

Continued retail prescences

Neither Canonical nor openSUSE give sales figures. However, although Brockmeier describes openSUSE retail sales as "not spectacular," he points out that "historically, SUSE Linux had very strong retail sales," suggesting that openSUSE might one day enjoy the same success.

After only a few weeks in the stores, Ubuntu's success is still being determined. However, presented with the conventional wisdom that GNU/Linux doesn't sell in the stores, Carr's reply is, "Valusoft would disagree with you, and we're hapy to work with them to find out. So far as I'm aware, they're happy where their revenue sales and projections are. And certainly the numbers we've seen have been promising. They're probably higher than I expected, to be honest."

That said, Carr suggests that Canonical (if not necessarily Valusoft) might be content with modest sales, although he rules out treating the Ubuntu retail box as a loss leader -- a product whose expense is seen as a marketing cost rather than as a way to produce income. "We are continually looking to expand the ways people can get Ubuntu," he says, explaining that most people obtain the operating system through the download of a CD image, a pre-install, or a shipped CD. The store shelf is "a fantastic way for us to be available, and brings us to an entirely different user type than the ones who would download. I don't expect that the boxes will be the majority way by which we distribute Ubuntu, but it is certainly a valuable route to market."

Similarly, Brockmeier sees sales as desirable but not the only concern for a community-based distribution like openSUSE. "We are mainly interested in spreading Linux rather than making money from the distro," he says. "The openSUSE project's goal is to encourage the use of Linux everywhere, and so I'm quite happy if people choose to download openSUSE even if that means they don't buy a retail box.

"On the other hand, I do think it lends credibility for many users to see Linux on retail shelves. To many people, 'free' means 'has no value,' because they equate a price tag with a thing's value. Oddly, you may convince some people to try Linux at $30 or $60 by putting it in a box with a manual when you can't get them to try the same distro on a burned CD or DVD. The same person who turns up their nose at a free download may think that a $60 retail set is a bargain because of all the software that they get."

Bruce Byfield is a computer journalist who writes regularly for Linux.com.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 69.213.69.21] on September 05, 2008 09:36 PM
Slackware is still selling boxed software, albeit a smaller (read double jewel case) box.

http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 198.209.19.140] on September 05, 2008 10:34 PM
Beat me to it... glad to see I'm not the only one noticing these omissions!

--JKWood

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 82.192.250.149] on September 06, 2008 07:53 AM
Slackware is not an "omission". If you'd read beyond the article's title, you'd have seen it was about selling Linux in walk-in stores, not by mail order. Different market.

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 192.168.40.186] on September 08, 2008 12:20 AM
Having it in a box adds more legitimacy to it. People will think, because it's in a store, in a box, it must be a product worthy and good enough to sell retail. People are funny like that. People like to buy a physical product, something tangible, graphic, that they can handle and store.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 91.45.156.239] on September 05, 2008 09:53 PM
Thanks Bruce. That was an interesting read.

Best, Dennis

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 76.115.21.52] on September 05, 2008 10:16 PM
That is the problem with not charging for software or marketing it. Many Windows users think it is worthless.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: PerlCoder on September 05, 2008 10:52 PM
Maybe instead of trying to sell the box with support, maybe we should just sell the support itself (say, an ad at the distros website, next to the ISO download, that says "click here to buy 30 days of phone support")?

And then, maybe the computer distributors could offer that as an optional, add-on purchase when someone buys a Linux box (say, one of Dell's Ubuntu laptops).

I'm certainly not a business person. But I imagine that at least a few newbies would rather pay to talk to a real linux guru, than post their questions at some overcrowded forum, wondering if anyone is actually going to help them. And if money was flowing in from that, maybe some of it could be spent on that desperately needed advertising.

Maybe there are distributions doing this already? (I'm not much of a distro-hopper...)

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 75.95.39.35] on September 06, 2008 04:43 AM
Rather than selling support, why not actually sell an education? Then you don't have as big of a support nightmare.

To me this only makes sense because the biggest hurdle any 'switcher' is going to face is how to use <fill_in_your_Linux_distro_of_choice>. The next logical step in the world of open source is open source training. Figure out how to do that without losing money and you've got not only the goods, but the motivation.

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 82.192.250.149] on September 06, 2008 07:56 AM
"maybe we should just sell the support itself (say, an ad at the distros website,"

The whole point of putting boxes on shelves at the local shopping mall is to reach people who do not buy from the web. That's what this is about.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 98.115.99.97] on September 06, 2008 02:45 AM
"overcrowding" is part of what gets the questions answered, and the majority of posts really do get answered. This is really a question of which cost you would like: The wait time on a forum, or the uncertainty of help from the phone support itself.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 80.6.6.10] on September 06, 2008 02:51 AM
The only box you should sell Linux in, is one with flashing lights on the front and sockets for keyboard mouse and monitor...

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 82.192.250.149] on September 06, 2008 08:05 AM
When your market is small, it's important to sell through as many different channels as possible. Every one of them is important. You're right, selling Linux pre-installed on computers is very important. But if you don't have much presence in that channel, it's also very important to sell over the web, and it's also very important to sell from store shelves, and in fact any way you can think of.

Distributors are, and always have been, a big road block in the way of smaller software companies. Maybe someday all shopping will be done on the web, and distributors won't exist, but that day - if it ever comes - is far in the future.

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Why do you want a box?

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 87.194.211.185] on September 06, 2008 10:50 AM
When you can get a DVD in a special-edition magazine? See http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416
Especially as there are rather more newsagents than computer stores.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 83.135.99.205] on September 06, 2008 02:11 PM
Mandriva was completely ignored by the article. They sell a whole lineup of boxed editions.

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.84.172.249] on September 06, 2008 10:44 PM
Bruce appears to have something against Mandriva. I've no idea what. We are *never* mentioned in his articles, even when it's incredibly obvious we should be (right up in the introduction for this one, as in the previous era when Linux boxes were sold in stores, Mandrake (as was) was probably the most prominent of all - yet nary a word, thanks Bruce).

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Posted by: nanday on September 06, 2008 11:47 PM
Let's nip this one before it gets started, shall we?

I have absolutely nothing against Mandriva, and refer to it when appropriate. For example, my recent piece on Nepomuk (http://www.linux.com/articles/144853) refers to the fact that Mandriva is paying for much of the work on the KDE semantic desktop, and extensively quotes the developer Mandriva is sponsoring.

Mandriva isn't mentioned in this article simply because I could find no indication that it tries to sell in retail stores as opposed to online. If that is wrong, then I regret it, because I would have been glad to hear about another company's experience.

As for not mentioning it in the introduction, the list of former retail sellers is clearly not meant to be exhaustive.

You are, of course, perfectly free to take offense at anything I say. But please don't manufacture excuses to take offense, okay?

- Bruce Byfield ("nanday")

P. S. -- If you think that Mandriva is being short-changed, you might consider submitting Mandriva news directly to editors@linux.com. That doesn't guarantee coverage by any means, because there are very few writers and a lot of stories out there. But, while I can't speak officially for Linux.com (being a freelancer), I suspect that most of the regular contributors are grateful for anything that makes the effort of keeping up with FOSS a little easier.

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.17.159.247] on September 06, 2008 11:46 PM
Not only that, eight years ago Mandrake Linux was one of the biggest, if not _the_ biggest selling boxed Linux. In the U.S. I saw it in book stores, of all places, and it had (I can't remember which) McGraw-Hill or MacMillan publisher label on it. I remember seeing a statistic somewhere in 1998 - 2001 that Mandrake Linux far and away outsold all other boxed distributions. Of course, at that time, it was cheaper and faster to go to the store than to try to download a couple of CD's over a phone modem at 14Kb or 23KB. At long distance, no less.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 58.28.152.168] on September 06, 2008 10:14 PM
We don't sell Linux in a retail box and nor do we actually charge for the operating system, instead we charge to install it, the customer may or may not know that Linux is free, if they do then they realise they're paying for it to be installed and if they don't then they probably assume the software is whats costing the money. Either way it's all explained on the invoice but customers don't seem to care. Once you explain to them that they can have an operating system that isn't Microsoft you grab their attention, then you explain that the majority of the software available for Linux is free (As in beer) you've really got their attention and if they know they can always call us up for help in the future they're more than happy to go with it. A quick demo using an Ubuntu (Although usually Kubuntu tbh) usually persuades them they'll be capable of using it and simply set up Konversation to go straight to the Kubuntu IRC room, set them up with bookmarks to the Ubuntu forums etc and they're more than happy.

I like the idea of selling it in a box on a shelf but even Windows doesn't sell that many retail copies each year, mostly because most users out there are petrified of performing such a task as installing their own operating system. I definitely like the idea of it being there though.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 68.192.77.171] on September 06, 2008 11:04 PM
All Linux needs is some hardcore advertising like Apple's adds or something. The thing is that not everyone cares what operating system or program they use. As long as it gets them to the internet,compatible with ITunes and gets their work done then they are happy and will most likely stick with windows their whole life. Although many people are going mac crazy... its like a new fad.

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Re: Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.91.176.216] on September 06, 2008 11:25 PM
And there is the rub. Apple's ads cost millions and millions of dollars. When you're running the ads to sell products and content that make you billions, it all makes sense. Running that kind / quantity of advertising for something that is basically free or carries a pretty small price and even smaller profit for some documentation and / or support is a sure way to go bankrupt. As zonker said, the point of openSUSE is to get Linux to as many people as possible. He also said the point is not to make a lot of money. What he didn't say is that the point is also not to lose money.

I don't see a money making way to distribute desktop Linux other than pre-installed on hardware. The netbook craze may be the vehicle that breaks out Linux. Instead of charging almost nothing to the hardware guys to bundle Linux, Novell or Ubuntu ought to be giving it away in exchange for not having to bear the cost of sales and marketing. And they should negotiate prominent advertising air cover in the overall advertising for the PCs, Laptops, Netbooks, etc.

Novell has plenty more to sell to corporations that adopt desktop Linux in the form of management software, collaboration and more. Neither Novell or Ubuntu has much of an upsell with consumers though.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 74.4.55.19] on September 07, 2008 12:16 AM
i was first introduced to Manrake 8.0 in the store with 3 cds and a manual way back...have been using Mandriva ever since...never looked at at windows........

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 204.174.86.29] on September 07, 2008 05:55 AM
Don't try to sell Linux to moms and pops rather focus on the next generation, young people, students, scientific and research, etc. Find the niches and grow from there. Children and young people are the "computer smart" generation they are the ones who will spread the word. Linux should be in a cool "package" eg. gadget, device, portable computer, etc. Trying to sell it directly to moms and pops is a waste of energy, time and money because they are the group of people least likely to be comfortable with technology.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 213.47.44.9] on September 07, 2008 12:42 PM
I always find it annoying that boxed distributions don't contain any added value other than a handbook and time-limited support.
I would expect a boxed version to include full multimedia capability, e.g. Fluendo's codec pack or LinDVD.

It would be very obvious to customers what the actual value is in buying a boxed version over downloading it for free.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 83.135.100.108] on September 07, 2008 06:29 PM
The Mandriva Powerpack contains support for DVD playback and proprietary codecs (exactly via the LinDVD/Fluendo combo you mentioned :-) I'd really love to see them sell via retail, because the package seems very complete and includes 1 year of support.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 83.135.100.108] on September 07, 2008 06:36 PM
I have to correct myself: You get 3 months commercial support with the Powerpack, as with Suse. But you still get the codecs, and a distribution with IMO less rough edges than Suse.

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Selling GNU/Linux in a box

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 78.32.26.49] on September 08, 2008 08:33 AM
One problem I see with selling distros in stores is the constant updating of version numbers, say every 6 months in the case of Ubuntu. This means that store owners will have to be able to ensure rapid turnover. While this is a good thing with an ever evolving system, to many users and store keepers it will seem that they quickly become redundant. I remember seeing Suse 5.3 for sale in an independent computer shop, while I was running 7.3. Being independent they were still trying to get full price for it. Mandrake did try some interesting marketing tactics, such as the Sims mandrake, shipping with the sims game and wine. Another problem is that the big box computer stores (PC world in the UK) are staffed by people with little or no skill or knowledge in computers let alone GNU/Linux.

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