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Review: Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

By Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier on April 27, 2007 (8:00:00 AM)

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Another six months, another release from the Ubuntu folks. The Ubuntu 7.04 release, better known as Ubuntu Feisty Fawn, is another cutting-edge, but not bleeding-edge, release that shows what Linux is capable of on the desktop. I've been running it since the early betas, and have found that it's the best Ubuntu release yet.

The first thing a new user will notice about Feisty is that the Ubuntu folks have made the download page very user-friendly, allowing users to select a few options to download the right CD rather than picking out the proper ISO name from a long list. I usually prefer to grab ISO images using GNU wget rather than Firefox's download manager (on the off chance that Firefox decides to crash) so I was a bit concerned the friendly interface would obscure the actual URL of the ISO -- but when you choose the options that are right for your computer, you're redirected to a page that includes the download URL and tips on burning ISOs.

With the Feisty release, you have the standard live CD installers for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu, plus alternate installers, plus the Ubuntu's server install. And, of course, you have the various hardware platforms as well -- x86, AMD64, UltraSPARC, and PowerPC. For the purpose of this review, I looked at the x86 version of Ubuntu and Kubuntu, on three machines -- an IBM Intellistation Z Pro dual 2.66GHz Xeon with 2.5GB of RAM with an Nvidia Quadro 4 video card, a homebrew AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ with 4GB of RAM and a newer Nvidia card (GeForce 7900), and an IBM ThinkPad T43 with 1GB of RAM.

The live CD installer hasn't changed much, if at all, since Edgy. Pop in the CD, and if you have a system with at least 256MB of RAM, the installer will take you into an Ubuntu or Kubuntu desktop. Users can get a feel for Ubuntu before installing, or just dive right in to the installation by clicking the Install icon. The install wizard walks you through basic installation questions like username, password, time zone, and disk partitioning, and then it's just a matter of waiting for all the files to be copied to disk.

I ran the installer on the homebrew machine and the IBM workstation. Both times, the installer ran fine, detected all of my hardware, and got everything up and running in about 30 to 40 minutes.

Upgrading Ubuntu

If you're already running Ubuntu, there's no reason to go through the install again just to upgrade to Feisty -- the Ubuntu system updater will offer you the opportunity to upgrade just as easily as running a regular system update. It will take quite a bit longer, but all you really have to do is sit back and watch the files download. The upgrader will handle the rest.

I ran the upgrade on a ThinkPad T43 that was running Ubuntu Edgy. All in all, it took about 90 minutes from start to finish, including all the downloading. Since the installer said that it needed to grab about 1,300 packages, I consider that an acceptable turnaround.

I didn't run into any showstoppers when upgrading, but one of my coworkers mentioned losing USB devices after the upgrade.

I also noticed one small change between Edgy and Feisty on my workstation, where I performed a clean install. The disk naming scheme has changed slightly, so my external USB drive (which holds my MP3 files) was now named /media/disk instead of /media/usbdisk. This isn't a major problem, but I had to make a few changes to the application preferences I copied over and a few scripts that used the /media/usbdisk path.

Restricted drivers

Right after the reboot into Feisty, Ubuntu gave me a "restricted drivers" notice. I clicked on the restricted drivers icon, which required me to give my password to get to the administrative interface. The Restricted Drivers dialog listed three items: the VMware network driver and machine monitor that came with the VMware Player package, and the ATI accelerated graphics driver. The dialog also cautioned that the software is proprietary and "cannot easily be changed to fix any future problems."

To enable the restricted driver, all I had to do was click on the enabled button and reboot. I could also enable the Nvidia accelerated graphics driver on two other machines with Nvidia cards by just clicking the enabled button and rebooting.

As a free software supporter and realist, I like the way that Ubuntu is handling the restricted drivers issue. While it'd be just peachy if we could all run our computers and do everything we want to do with free software, the sad reality is that we can't. Furthermore, if there's any hope of meeting the expectations of potential users coming from the Windows and Mac OS camps, a distro has to support the devices that they want to use. Is it the Linux community's fault that OEMs don't ship free drivers for their devices? No, but that doesn't stop new users from being turned off when they find that their $300 Nvidia card is no better than a $15 video card because it won't do 3-D using free drivers, or that their wireless card is a useless hunk of plastic and metal without a few proprietary bits. So the Ubuntu approach seems like a good middle ground: Users are warned before enabling "restricted" software, but it's made easy for users who want to do so.

Desktop effects

While desktop effects aren't enabled by default, it's relatively easy to enable them, at least under GNOME. You'll need to make sure you have the right drivers installed for your video card, as well as having the Compiz or Beryl packages installed, and then go to System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects.

This worked like a charm in GNOME with an Nvidia card -- but not quite so well on my laptop with an ATI card. Nor is it that easy with KDE.

With my ATI card, when I tried to enable desktop effects I received an error about not having composite extensions -- and that's it. It didn't indicate whether I'd be able to get the necessary support by installing a couple of extra packages or by switching to a different driver. I know that my ATI card does support Compiz and Beryl because I was able to run the desktop effects on SimplyMEPIS.

On my desktop machine, I wanted to run KDE with Compiz, but I didn't see any preferences with KDE that would allow me to enable desktop effects. I emailed Kubuntu developer Jonathan Riddell about this, and he said that the compiz-kde effort was stalled, and that the best way to go was to install Beryl -- something I'd resisted, as I've found Beryl to be unstable. He also acknowledged that KDE doesn't sport a desktop effects applet like GNOME's in Feisty.

Riddell says that an applet is in the works for Gutsy Gibbon, the next planned Ubuntu release, as well as a restricted drivers manager applet. Unfortunately, for Feisty, KDE users will have to dive in a bit to set up desktop effects.

Software selection

I've already reviewed GNOME 2.18, which is the standard Ubuntu desktop, and what I said there applies to Ubuntu Feisty -- it's a solid release, but you're not going to log in and see major changes or "gee whiz" features in GNOME. Actually, Ubuntu includes GNOME 2.18.1, but the .1 release is bugfix only -- it doesn't actually add any new features.

However, as I mentioned already, Feisty makes it easy to enable desktop effects, even if they're not on by default. Feisty makes it easy to install Java, and Flash. It includes the latest and greatest versions available at feature freeze of all the standard desktop packages you'd expect -- Firefox, OpenOffice.org, Gaim (soon to be Pidgin), Evolution, and all the rest.

Kubuntu

Kubuntu ships with KDE 3.5.6, and includes a few improvements over the Edgy release. Note that users can upgrade to KDE 3.5.6 in Edgy without upgrading to Feisty, since the Kubuntu folks release packages for new KDE releases almost as soon as they're available from KDE. In addition to upgraded packages, like Amarok 1.4.5 and OpenOffice.org 2.2, Kubuntu includes a few new features, such as the new and improved networking configuration utility, KNetworkManager.

The Kubuntu configuration setup utilities have been rearranged in Feisty, which has a System Settings center with General and Advanced tabs. Under General, you can configure default applications, KDE's appearance, users, network settings, and a number of other system settings. The Advanced tab includes access to system services, the login manager, audio encoding, and a new Wine configuration utility.

I'm not much for Windows apps, but the Wine utility is promising. If you don't have Wine installed already, it will walk you through getting the packages and getting Wine installed. It also allows you to configure the version of Windows that programs will "see" when they run under Wine, the directory mapping for Windows drive letters to directories on the Linux filesystem, the applications' appearance, support for Direct3D, and other settings you might need to tweak to get an application running under Wine. You can even change settings for specific applications, so if the general settings don't work for an app, you can customize them to get it working.

However, I don't think this utility will displace CodeWeavers CrossOver in the near future. I tried installing a few apps under Wine after setting Wine up. The results varied from "completely locked up," to "ran OK." NoteTab Light, for example, ran OK when I tried it out, but Adobe Acrobat totally froze, and I had to switch to a virtual terminal and kill the application to be able to access my desktop again.

I was thrilled to see the KPDF has a bookmarking feature, but that elation was somewhat tempered by the fact that you can set a bookmark, but KPDF doesn't seem to expose any easy way to actually navigate between bookmarks.

As a rule, I tend to prefer KDE over GNOME -- though I typically run GNOME on my laptop and KDE on my workstation just to stay familiar with both -- but Feisty has me using GNOME rather than KDE. Why? Because the desktop effects are more mature in GNOME than KDE, and easier to set up. After using it for a few weeks, Compiz is not something I care to do without, not because of the "bling" but because a few of Compiz's features, such as the Expose-like tiling of windows, are hard to live without, and Compiz's implementation is much faster than Kompose.

One thing that surprised me in Kubuntu was the change to the log out interface. Usually when you click "Log out" you expect to get a dialog that asks if you really want to log out or cancel, but Kubuntu has gone to a single "Log out" button -- with no cancel or other options. I'm sure plenty of new users are going to hit the Log out button accidentally and then think "oh, I have no option but to log out and back in again." (This isn't actually the case, though -- you can just hit Escape.) I hope the Kubuntu folks will restore a Cancel button before Gutsy.

Feisty includes a fancy new setup utility for Hewlett-Packard printer owners, but as I don't own an HP printer, I wasn't able to take advantage of the HPLIP Toolbox.

Hardware support

I've been using Feisty on three separate computers, and have tried a wide variety of hardware with Ubuntu to see how this release fares in supporting things like scanners, iPods, external USB and FireWire drives, webcams, a Belkin 802.11b USB wireless device, and whatever else I could find.

The only device that didn't work out of the box was a LogiTech webcam, which isn't exactly surprising -- I've tried it with several other distros, and no dice. In fact, it's not even detected by Mac OS X unless you install a special application.

Better multimedia support

Feisty doesn't come with proprietary or patent-encumbered codecs installed by default, but it does the next best thing -- if you try to play a media file that's not supported, like an MP3, Ubuntu will walk you through installing the proper codecs for that file. Like the restricted drivers utility, this gives users a chance to easily get the software that they want or need without having to do a bunch of searching through forums to find out what they need, and then doing manual tweaking.

One of the things that bugged me with Edgy (and previous Ubuntu releases) was that it was easy for an application to put the sound device in a death grip and prevent other applications from using sound. There's nothing quite like launching a music player, or another application that utilizes sound, and seeing a sound device error to remind you that the Linux desktop still has some weak spots. Feisty is better in this regard, but I have run into the problem with a couple of applications -- like VMware Server and Audacity -- so there's a bit of work left to be done.

Fixing the "audio jumble" was on the agenda when Feisty was being planned last year, and it looks like it's still a high priority. I look forward to a day when I can have Amarok playing and have sound from a virtual machine running in VMware without having to scour forums for a kludgy fix.

A taste of freedom for the Windows folks

Even if Ubuntu fails to convert Windows users to Linux, the Kubuntu and Ubuntu ISOs come with a small dose of free Windows software to at least give users a taste of free software within Windows.

The Kubuntu disc includes Firefox, Thunderbird, Scribus, and SpeedCrunch for Windows, while the Ubuntu disc includes Firefox, Thunderbird, AbiWord, Blender, and ClamWin.

Final verdict

Ubuntu and Kubuntu Feisty are moderate improvements over the Edgy release, and include enough new software and features to justify upgrading to Feisty or trying it out for the first time if you've been waiting to take the Ubuntu plunge.

Feisty delivers most of the features that users were hoping for in Edgy. Ubuntu is getting to the point where it can face mainstream desktops. If that weren't the case, would Michael Dell be running the OS on his laptop?

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KDE users could use FreeSpire out May 15th or so..

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 27, 2007 11:23 PM
RE: "for Feisty, KDE users will have to dive in a bit to set up desktop effects".

OR checkout FreeSpire 2.x due out next month (May 15th) that is based on KDE (and full of features).
FreeSpire for the 1st time will be based on Ubuntu Repositories with this release.

Still - the hotest LINUX out these days is running on the Nokia N800 - See maemo.org project for details. N800 could use a few improvements, but much of those are being addressed at maemo.org (note that if Nokia on the next version increases the memory, and puts in ECC with Wear Leveling Flash, and uses the One Laptop Per Child LCD screen that is very good on power saving and can be seen very easily in sunlite, well, that would be good too... but, the N800 still kicks but for the size it is.

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Re:KDE users could use FreeSpire out May 15th or s

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 01:09 AM
I've been using Ubuntu since 6.06 Dapper (LTS).

I have only 2 complaints.

1. Laptop> I've seen lot's of places where people complain about Suspend/Hibernate issues. A year and a half has passed, and there has been no solution (at least for Dell laptops, specially using ATI drivers). I know that not all of this is Ubuntu's fault, but having a laptop w/out this feature is kind of lame.

2. Laptop> battery life and temp. In MS Windows, my battery runs for a bit more than 2 hours on battery. On Ubuntu, about 1. Temperature is another big issue, even with gkrellm i8k installed.

As you can see, my Desktop (another Dell, w/ ATI) has no problems, working @ 100%.

The last thing I'd recommend, is to create a place, alike w/ubuntuforums.org, where all the solutions provided by different forums and users are gathered.
For example, typor of hardware, brand, model or system. This way, the first place to look for answers would be this site, instead of having to wander all over the www for answers.

If you plan to give Ubuntu to "the average user" this is a must. For the kind of people, like me, that are using Ubuntu as of now, it's not necessary, but WOW, I'm sure it would help a lot.

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Re:KDE users could use FreeSpire out May 15th or s

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 05:27 AM
As for your first two complaints, I've found that Feisty is the first version to work adequately with my ThinkPad T60 w/ATI x1300. Previous version had _horrible_ suspend/resume issues, all of which seem to have finally been worked out with Feisty.

This was partly due to the newer kernel, partly the Ubuntu Devs, but mostly due to a newer ATI driver that addressed a long-standing resume bug. Ah, closed source drivers. The x1300 was my bane for almost a year. With 8.34.8, ATI finally has some reasonably stable drivers.

Very late in the Feisty development cycle, I actually found NetworkManager/udev working properly for the first time with the on-board Intel 3945 wifi.

While Edgy had a few nice features over Dapper, Feisty is absolutely worth the upgrade for laptop users.

As for battery life, my T60 dual-boots Vista. I can get about 2:45 in either Windows or Linux. I might get ten more minutes in Windows. Though this seems to have more to do with Vista being harder on the battery than XP was.

Anyway, Feisty was the first time in a long time for me that I thought a new Linux laptop might be an option. (Mow that ACPI support is getting a bit better, it must be just about time for ACPI2.)

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Re:Not impressed with Kubuntu

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 02:24 AM
hmmm well that was a blanket statement. How about backing up with some examples. What is a real shame is that you put down Kububtu with out providing any evidence for your ridiculous statement.

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Just not true, Zonker

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 04:11 AM

if there's any hope of meeting the expectations of potential users coming from the Windows and Mac OS camps, a distro has to support the devices that they want to use.


Mac users actually have little freedom of choice when it comes to devices - certainly less choice than Linux users. You can't just buy the latest add-in card from your local computer mall, plug it into your Mac, and expect it to work.


I'd draw the opposite conclusion from you. If you want to use a device with Linux, check whether Linux supports it before buying it.

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Correction

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 04:37 AM
"The live CD installer hasn't changed much, if at all, since Edgy."

The installer comes with a new "Documents and Settings" migration wizard.

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Bunches of wireless problems

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 04:55 AM
The ubuntuforums.org site is awash in wireless problems, and bugs.launchpad.net is swamped with bug reports in this area. For instance, during Feisty development someone reported a problem with with the r818x wireless driver used by a ton of popular WiFi cards by Linksys and others. So, it was blacklisted by the kernel devs. Folks switching from Dapper or Edgy (where the card worked great) all of a sudden had no wireless and difficulty figuring out why. There are also problems with some WiFi USB adapters that use the at76c503a driver.

Wireless users would be wise to check the forums and launchpad to see if there are problems with their hardware before upgrading if they are dependent on WiFi networking. If they are, tracking the bugs until they are fixed before switching might be best.

Good luck! --dB

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PS2 Mouse bug

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 09:39 AM
Anyone heard of a fix for the PS2 mouse bug yet? 7.04 isn't much good without a mosue.....

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Re:Not impressed with Kubuntu

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 28, 2007 07:25 PM
I sampled Kubuntu and quit. It's like they are trying to gnomeify KDE. I have used both and prefer KDE.

Mepis suits my needs--solid ubuntu repositories and none of the sudo crap.

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Re:Not impressed with Kubuntu

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 29, 2007 08:34 AM
MEPIS for me too.

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Re:Not impressed with Kubuntu

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 11, 2007 12:51 PM
actually you can get su to work by typing this

sudo passwd root

and setting the root password, then you can su all you want.

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Why no SELinux by default? Fedora has it!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 29, 2007 05:57 PM
I have been waiting for some direction that Ubuntu, to be really serious as a distro, is adopting a strong security stack.

SELinux (Security Enhanced Linux first promoted by the National Security Agency, aka NSA) is something that needs to be SWITCHED ON BY DEFAULT.

On another forum, I commmented the same, but the reply was that it was an application breaker. BUT, it is not, if the SELinux ON switch is focuses on the Kernel and Root level activities. AND SELINUX is customized by the distro and it's applications to be friendly and also switched on for various application level (user space) activities as well.

None the less, to be a serious distro for use in any enterprise, or any home use, or mobile laptop use while logging into various WiFi Hot Spots,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...for someone, or a business, who is educated in the value of the art of security..., well, SELINUX for Ubuntu needs to be taking a page from Fedora and Red Hat, and security needs to be taken seriously by Ubuntu. Otherwise, Ubuntu is worthless.

SEubuntu anyone? SEKubuntu, SEXubuntu, etc?

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SELinux on Ubuntu? Oh my!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 30, 2007 04:22 AM
Nice review! I'll be demostrating Ubuntu to some people in our local high school, so it's good to know about its strong and not-so points. Maybe they'll find there is life outside Windows<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)

With regards to SELinux, I'd decline the invitation. It will eventually arrive to Ubuntu, considering the organization it has behind, but it creates more doubts than security feelings in many people.

Better use ACLs (Access Control Lists) for security, they are more understandable by anyone.

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Re:Why no SELinux by default? Fedora has it!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 02, 2007 02:18 AM
SELinux the default on a desktop PC? Running no public services? Are you nuts? Just what we need, a Vista-type experience where nothing works because of impenetrable security policies imposed by the vendor. No thanks.

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Finally Switched, almost smooth

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 30, 2007 10:36 PM
I finally switched over from windows after hearing nothing but rave reviews for fiesty fawn, i had tryed some earlier realeases, but always had a make or brake periphiel that i could'nt get working.
Hardest thing this time around was trying to get flash to work on a 64bit version of Firefox, spent about three hours to no avil, and decided to run the 32 bit version of firefox, followed a very good walk through located at <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava" title="ubuntu.com">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64Fla<nobr>s<wbr></nobr> hJava</a ubuntu.com> and got it working, so now i get Linux and i don't have to give up my youtube videos.

Overall a much better experince switching than i've had before.

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Ubuntu is great!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 02, 2007 04:24 AM
I
really Like Ubuntu festy Fawn and this will be the best release ever
from ubuntu development team.

The new release
includes many new features like an "Easy-to-install codec wizards", a
"migration assistant" and desktop 3d (like in Windows Vista) effects.

Ubuntu
is having a great breakthrough and even PC-Vendors (example <a href="http://www.qblock.eu/" title="qblock.eu">www.qblock.eu</a qblock.eu>) sell
their PCs with this Linux.

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Of note

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 22, 2007 02:18 AM
In the beginning of the article, you talk about the various platforms ubuntu is available for. It is notable that Ubuntu dropped ppc support in Ubuntu feisty.

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Not impressed with Kubuntu

Posted by: Administrator on April 28, 2007 02:12 AM
I'm not much of a Gnome person, so I really can't comment on Ubuntu, but as far as the Kubuntu implementation of KDE, I hated it.

I have always used straight out of the box KDE, and the Kubuntu version gutted so many features that I used, that it was like having training wheels put on a racing bike.

I think it's a shame that most Kubuntu users will never know what a good Desktop environment KDE is.

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Not for mass distribution 'til...

Posted by: Administrator on April 28, 2007 04:58 AM
I've been using Ubuntu since 6.06 Dapper (LTS).

I have only 2 complaints.

1. Laptop> I've seen lot's of places where people complain about Suspend/Hibernate issues. A year and a half has passed, and there has been no solution (at least for Dell laptops, specially using ATI drivers). I know that not all of this is Ubuntu's fault, but having a laptop w/out this feature is kind of lame.

2. Laptop> battery life and temp. In MS Windows, my battery runs for a bit more than 2 hours on battery. On Ubuntu, about 1. Temperature is another big issue, even with gkrellm i8k installed.

As you can see, my Desktop (another Dell, w/ ATI) has no problems, working @ 100%.

The last thing I'd recommend, is to create a place, alike w/ubuntuforums.org, where all the solutions provided by different forums and users are gathered.
For example, typor of hardware, brand, model or system. This way, the first place to look for answers would be this site, instead of having to wander all over the www for answers.

If you plan to give Ubuntu to "the average user" this is a must. For the kind of people, like me, that are using Ubuntu as of now, it's not necessary, but WOW, I'm sure it would help a lot.

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Review: Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 10.250.16.66] on August 18, 2007 11:43 AM
Thanks for the review!

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Review: Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 12.219.242.119] on August 27, 2007 02:17 AM
Not for mass distribution - - -
Sorry guys, but after reading all this geekspeek and following many of the links to even more geekspeek, I still have NO IDEA what to expect if I try to download Ubuntu thru my wireless web connection into this old clunker of a desktop running WinME. Should I download Ubuntu and take the chance that this PC will self-destruct in one way or another? Or should I just shove my original Win98 CD into the slot in the front of the box and see what happens. It can't be any worse than this awwwwful ME op sys that freezes about every dozen web pages, right?
You would think there would be a web page with screen shots of the Ubuntu install sequence. Maybe even a logic tree of the install process? But no, then you couldn't show off your excellent command of jargonese and may actually have millions of non-techs using Ubuntu. What could be more horrible than that? I mean besides WinME, MicroSuck, AOL, Juno, et cetera ad infinitum.

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Review: Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 125.20.39.39] on September 06, 2007 07:24 AM
Review is convincing but Ubuntu falls next to PCLinuxOS. Hats off to PCLinuxOS 2007! It wins over Ubuntu all the way for its better multimedia support, better hardware detection, stability and above all configurablity. Let's wait for its gnome version. Visit http://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com to know why.

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Review: Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 202.80.43.11] on September 17, 2007 01:21 AM
please assist me. I have the connexion lan but it systematically says that the page server can't be found
Gilles

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Review: Ubuntu Feisty Fawn - USB Networking

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 68.94.56.31] on October 15, 2007 12:29 PM
I tried upgrading last night but could not get connected to my wireless network after the upgrade. Ended up rolling back to Edgy (the hard way, reinstalling from the CD). I use an old 802.11b Belkin USB network adapter on this machine and have seen "some problems" reported with USB network connectivity. Does anyone think this is the problem and if so, is there a fix available?

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