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It's patently clear: EU now leaning toward software patenting

By Fergus Cassidy on May 19, 2004 (8:00:00 AM)

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The European Union took a big step Tuesday in a relentless march toward software patenting. To the dismay and anger of many in the open source/free software movement, a meeting of the EU Competitiveness Council in Brussels won approval for a new draft, which must now go before the directly elected European Parliament later this year.

Previous amendments tossed aside

Last September, the proposed software patents directive was heavily amended by the Parliament. The majority of those amendments confirmed the status quo and would have kept software beyond the reach of patents. Tuesday's decision means that those amendments have now been thrown aside.

The new agreed-upon draft was strongly promoted and driven forward by the Irish Minister for Trade and Enterprise Mary Harney, who is also deputy prime minister. She has made patenting, including software, one of her priorities. Ireland currently holds the Presidency of the EU.

In a budget speech last December, she said: "The encouragement of patents is also a European and national priority. We want to give all possible support to the generation of new ideas and products. We are underlining that Ireland intends to become a world leader in converting ideas into jobs."

This strategy was further reinforced in the Irish Presidency's Programme for Competitiveness document: "The enforcement of intellectual property rights, a common regime for the community patent, community trade mark regulations, and the protection of software inventions form an important underpinning to the research and knowledge-based economy. We will ensure that progress is made in these areas."

Clearing up the Microsoft sponsorship

While Harney's pro-patent and zealous free enterprise approach is well known in Ireland, the country's stance has not been fully understood elsewhere.

For example, it has been alleged that the Irish Presidency was being sponsored by the Microsoft Corp. On investigation, however, the source of such speculation lies in the list of sponsors and contributors on the home page of the Irish presidency.

The sponsors listed on the site include a food company, a telco, a water company, and a car manufacturer. Microsoft is named as a contributor, alongside others such as Dell, two whiskey distillers, and a tour coach operator.

Press enquiries as to the fine details of the Microsoft contribution have so far gone unanswered, but industry sources believe that it amounts to the provision of server software for the duration of the Presidency, which ends in June.

More pertinently, the reasons for Ireland's conviction toward software patents lies in its economic relationship with the United States.

The Irish Times reported recently that U.S. investment in Ireland in 2003 was more than twice of that invested in China, amounting to more than $4.7 billion. Profits of U.S. companies based in Ireland rose by 45 percent in the same year.

What is central to the Irish government's cosiness toward software patenting is the presence of so many large U.S. technology companies in Ireland along with their enticing patent portfolios.

Yesterday's vote showed the Irish presidency's resolve for a new patent regime in Europe which, of course, may be of great benefit to Ireland in return. The country has placed many of its economic eggs in the information and communications technology basket.

Vote looms, but uphill struggle remains

The software patent directive still has to be put to a vote in the European Parliament in September, but following yesterday's vote it will now be an uphill struggle to defeat or amend it.

That battle is not yet over, according to James Heald of the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure. He told NewsForge: "It is harder to press amendments at second reading -- it requires absolute majorities -- but those were the sort of numbers we managed to get at first reading. So the vote in the autumn is likely to be on a knife-edge."

Direct elections will be held next month in all member states of the European Parliament. Heald said this "makes it especially important now to make candidates aware of just how important this is to so many of their constituents."

As part of that campaign, Free Software Foundation chief Richard Stallman has been touring European capitals speaking on the dangers of software patents. When he comes to Dublin next Monday, he won't be getting much of a welcome (OCead Mile Failte') from this Irish government.

Fergus Cassidy is a technology columnist with The Sunday Tribune in Dublin.

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Anger

Posted by: Enquest on May 19, 2004 05:52 PM
This is a very undemocratic decision of the EU minister consul.
Many people feel so angry the are dropping there belief in a democratic system.

Software patents actualy take away the freedom to programme. It makes it fore each programmer a mine field. It even could put some in prison for violating a patent.

In the past they put people in prison for speaking there mind. Now they going to sue poeple who use there brains.

I call on all people to write at least ones a PM. There are over 600 EU PM. These parlmentairians will read your mail, phone calls, letters, pettions.

If evrybody of the free an open source community would write a few of these persons they would get millions of responses.

Its now or never to make your freedom happen

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Do not despair Re:Anger

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 19, 2004 06:16 PM
Please, it is very important for everybody feeling concerned by this topic not to despair.
Despair in politics is a self fulfilling prophecy: If you think it's not worth to write your MEPs and candidates, then indeed you won't be heard.
Last September was a tremendous hope for a European software free-market. Please help the FFII make it happen again !
http://www.ffii.org
Remember : If all those who oppose software patents write to their MEPs,we can still *win* !
Write to
1) explain the situation
2) ask for written vote promises that can be published.

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good! now the next step

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 20, 2004 05:30 AM
Many people feel so angry the are dropping there belief in a democratic system.

Finally! Your reaction actually very healthy and normal. Don't give up your beliefs in the *values* of democracy, but don't identify the system we are all living in with it. We are *not* living in a democracy. We are living in a plutocracy which is run by the sum total of the vectors produced by various lobbies and who all have one thing in common: they rule through money. And yes, they are out there to 'get you' and deprive you, and all of us, from essential freedoms. now this does not mean you should surrender, not at all, but fight these forces intelligently: only because they call themselves 'democractic' does not mean that they are. Look at the way they did away with international law, look at their rigged (pseudo) elections with only two (indistinguishable) parties to choose from, look at the way they wage wars of agression against the public opinions of their own countries. Sad as this is, you have to accept it and join those who are *really* struggling for democratic values and freedoms. I will not list them here - find them on your own and give us a hand!

As they used to sing "we shall overcome!"

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not only patents - look at GMO

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 20, 2004 07:22 AM
Alas, the corporate prostitutes in the EU have now also allowed the sale of GMO corn in the EU even though the vast majority of Europeans do not want them.

maybe the people should start making money collections to try to out-bribe the corporate pimps (mainly Americans - of course) who rent the services of EU officials?

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pro-patent and free entrerprise ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 19, 2004 06:09 PM
"While Harney's pro-patent and zealous free enterprise approach is well known in Ireland, the country's stance has not been fully understood elsewhere. "

This sentence is opposing 'not understanding' and 'knowing'. Do I have to believe that in Ireland, not only do people 'know' that someone (Harney) can be pro-patent (aka state-granted monopolies) *and* have a 'zealous free enterprise approach' ?

If so, please share some of your understanding to a poor foreigner.

Software patent are not only disruptive to free software, they are disruptive to softwre *free market*.
While fields of technology as in TRIPs may benefit from granting monopolies for products.
Software is so constrained by interoperability issues, and complexity (combination of hundreds of 'ideas' in one product) that allowing patents would kill free market as we would like to know it.
Plese have a go at http://swpat.ffii.org

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A Reason not to "cross the pond"

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 19, 2004 07:39 PM
As a US resident who is also a programmer, does this mean I should avoid going to the EU for the same reason Alan Cox avoids the US?
<TT>Resignation from ALS, Skylarov affair...
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:31:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Alan Cox
To: alschair@usenix.org
Cc: editor@lwn.net,  editors@newsforge.com,  gnu@eff.org

I hereby tender my resignation to the Usenix ALS committee.

With the arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not
safe for non US software engineers to visit the United States. While he was
undoubtedly chosen for political reasons as a Russian is a good example for
the US public the risk extends arbitarily further.

Usenix by its choice of a US location is encouraging other programmers, many
from eastern european states hated by the US government to take the same
risks. That is something I cannot morally be part of. Who will be the next
conference speaker slammed into a US jail for years for committing no crime?
Are usenix prepared to take the chance it will be their speakers ?

Until the DMCA mess is resolved I would urge all non US citizens to boycott
conferences in the USA and all US conference bodies to hold their
conferences elsehere.

I appreciate that this problem is not of Usenix making, but it must be addressed

Alan Cox</TT>


These types of laws could quickly snowball into a major problem for programmers in general. Maybe they already are.


-Pete

<A HREF="http://www.bitworm.com/" TITLE="bitworm.com">Computer Books</a bitworm.com>

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Re:A Reason not to "cross the pond"

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 19, 2004 11:30 PM
Just come to Canada, where software cannot be patented.... at least not yet.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;o)

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Re:A Reason not to "cross the pond"

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 20, 2004 05:36 AM
well, in the EU one does get arrested (yet?)

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Rope And Lamp Posts

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 19, 2004 07:46 PM
When the democratic "will" of the people is side stepped by corporate whores. At some point, the only polls that will matter. Will be the poles (polls) that the street lights are mounted on. Combined with some three quarter inch manilla hemp rope, they make a real handy gallows. The surveilance cameras, that have been mounted on these poles to watch the sheeple, will conveniently help to broadcast these events Live!
Note: These comments are in no wise meant to be derogatory to those (whores) who get money by selling a usefull service (renting their bodies).
It is however, a scathing reproach to all those politicians, who for money and power, betray those they have sworn to represent . These whores don't sell their bodies, they sell their souls.
Burn Baby, Burn.....

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Live! It's Saturday Night!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 19, 2004 08:01 PM
Tonights special guest will be a corporate whore, MP. Who we will be turning into a Duncan YoYo at the corner of Fourth and Vine. So, settle in to your favorite chair and grab your popcorn. We'll be back after a word from our sponsors.
Who says we've run out of good ideas for TV.

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of whores and corporations

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 20, 2004 05:34 AM
corporate whores ???

I know of non-corporate whores, but I have yet to see a single non-whorish corporation!

Support Debian & the FSF!

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no suprise

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 19, 2004 10:57 PM
Ireland is a place where some big software companies
have their research centers. Mrs. Harney is obviously protecting their interests.

DG

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Patents

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 20, 2004 09:03 PM
Surely no one can object patents after reading this fine example....

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=P<nobr>T<wbr></nobr> O1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.ht<nobr>m<wbr></nobr> &r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,727,830.WKU.&OS=PN/6,727,830&R<nobr>S<wbr></nobr> =PN/6,727,830

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Re:Patents

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 10, 2004 08:48 AM
Ah...so Microcrap invented the "double click"?

I think this is a perfect example of what's wrong with the patent process. No doubt if they hire 40 or 50 million patent officials they could keep track of all this. Short of a MASSIVE hiring they'll keep getting people patenting stuff that has been used for more than a decade and then here come the frigging lawyers and....this is what they call inovation???

coldfire

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My view

Posted by: opteron_user on May 21, 2004 04:12 AM
The current software patent system is far from ideal; it is damaging to open source software. But I do not see how it can be improved. Removing software patents entirely is out of the question. If I create a technology I would want to prevent others from using it. I want it to be exclusive to my company's software. I created it and it is for ME to do as I please with.

I can see why the EU has made the decision it has and why Ireland supports it.

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Re:My view

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 25, 2004 08:26 PM

Whatever technology you create right now, will be based on and will thus be, an application of existing technology. Such applications and even algorithms are there waiting to be discovered like unknown lands, you dont create them and thus you don't own them.



"If I create a technology I would want to prevent others from using it."



I dont see why you want to create it in the first place then, or how you will manage to create anything usefull anyway, when other technologies are not available to you.



Manos

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Re:My view

Posted by: opteron_user on May 26, 2004 02:24 AM
> I dont see why you want to create it in the first place then, or how you will manage to create anything usefull anyway, when other technologies are not available to you

I meant prevent other competing companies using it.

> Whatever technology you create right now, will be based on and will thus be, an application of existing technology. Such applications and even algorithms are there waiting to be discovered like unknown lands, you dont create them and thus you don't own them

Lets assume that the technology that I create is rightfully owned by me. And if I discovered some undiscovered algorithms that made up my technology, I would patent them as well. These are all discovered in the process.

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heh

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 10, 2004 09:15 PM
You couldn't do squat, actually.

If you want to protect your programme, then you have copyrights. Patents, however, are a total other ballgame.

MS recently received a patent on 'double-clicking' a mouse. Well, then, do you think it to be fair that MS could forbid you to klick twice on your mouse? And what if they had a patent on using compilers? Or on typing code that interacts with an OS? Where would that leave you?

The difference between copyrights and patents are this: Jules Vernes could forbid anyone to copy one of his books, with patents, however, he could have forbidden anyone to create Sience-Fiction.

The idea that everything should be able to be patented is absurd, and, ultimately, contraproductive for the public at large.

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Re:heh

Posted by: opteron_user on June 11, 2004 01:23 AM
> The idea that everything should be able to be patented is absurd, and, ultimately, contraproductive for the public at large

I never said that everything should be patented.

> If you want to protect your programme, then you have copyrights. Patents, however, are a total other ballgame

I do not only want to protect the program. I want to protect the idea and prevent other companies from using it.

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Re:My view

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 01, 2004 04:40 PM
This is a frustrating part of this problem. All the people with strongly held, and stated, opinions. Opinion based on, incorrect, guesses about how the system works. People, apparently, without any interest in the real effects of the current, and proposed, system on the software industry.

If you truly believe that you can use a software patent to protect an innovation of yours in a fair manner, you're in for a rude awakening.

Good places to start getting clued in:
http://vrijschrift.org/swpat/030508_1/index.html
http://webshop.ffii.org/
http://www.ffii.org/

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