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Yep. Classic case of devs leaving the user base behind because they are bored with stuff that just works. The desktop icon thing is going to turn out like gnome and spatial.

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what t.. f... did the KDE devs smoke? It takes an eternity to launch a stupid application. Why did they have to reinvent the wheel at all? Wasn't that exactly what Linux/OSS people were not suppose to do?

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KDE 4 should be classified as beta or earlier. Start thing stinks! The old 3.x gui was quicker to use, could put icons on desktop that we ok size, and the Gwenview remake for 4.0 is a backward step from the wonderful ease of use Gwenview with all the Kipi Plugins from before (don't want a DigiKam, as Gwenvew was better than that, now, the new version stinks... and so it will be sad that the old Gwenview will fall away with no support once KDE 4.x is launched! If you wanted a GUI that worked then look back at NT 4 or Win2000 - simple and to the point, everything MS has done since is a disaster. Why copy Microsoft?

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I have used KDE since 2001 and have always disliked Gnome. When I installed Fedora 9 I found KDE 4 to be disappointing, and I was actually forced to use Gnome just to be able to perform certain tasks. I have now switched to Fedora 8, which is better by far, because I really don't want to use Gnome.

When Fedora 7 was released I thought for the first time that Linux was 'there': I had a setup that never left me feeling that I needed something more. KDE 4 was like using Gnome: limited.

We have people avoiding Windows Vista because it's 'different', and then Linux users are offered a 'different' KDE. We should at least have had the option of switching from standard behaviour to the new style. The taskbar is vile!

The start menu is awful too. If you know where something is it's OK, but you have to spend much more time going backwards and forwards if you're looking for an application... but at least there is an option to return to the classic style.

If Microsoft had released something as poor as KDE 4 we would be laughing and poking fun. KDE 4 is shameful. It is slower -- for the first time, rather than being faster! It is a step forwards that is a step backwards.

We had an 'extract here' in the context menu, and also a 'compress as' option, allowing easy packing and unpacking. Where is that in KDE 4? ARK didn't even know how to handle bz2 files, so I had to revert to the command line.

There are some improvements in KDE 4, but at the moment I can only think about how, for the first time, I've had to do exactly what people are doing with Windows: going back to the previous version.

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I just tried KDE 4 and i am so dissapointed - it really is bloated and very inefficient - e.g. where is the run command on the taskbar? when I put the clock to also display the date, the date gets cut and i cannot see it. So far it has been a terrible experience - i hope to stick with KDE 3.5 for a long long time.

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