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scottco229
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Posted: Apr 13, 2009 8:09:01 PM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
Mike, very nice post, I agree with you. I peer to peer book on reviews of good books, that can help with training, tasks.etc...I use all three, mac, linux, and MS. I like Linux the best out of all three, and it isn't even close, however that being said, I want more from Linux, I want it options like MS has, in terms of software and integration...that would make linux perfect IMO
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Mike
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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 12:52:38 PM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
[quote=scottco229]Mike, very nice post, I agree with you. I peer to peer book on reviews of good books, that can help with training, tasks.etc...I use all three, mac, linux, and MS. I like Linux the best out of all three, and it isn't even close, however that being said, I want more from Linux, I want it options like MS has, in terms of software and integration...that would make linux perfect IMO[/quote] Sadly, while a lot of open source alternatives exist, companies just won't port o Linux.
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francek

Joined Apr 18, 2009
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Posted: Apr 19, 2009 5:45:19 PM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
[quote=Mike] 6) Linux needs to change the image of hard to install and just for hackers. Open Office is out there. It's free. In this economy you don't need a license for each install. You don't need a license for each person connecting to a server.-------------------- -------------------- 9) The community needs to get out to high schools and offer and after school classes to educate students interested in computer science about Linux. And Linux/Windows existing on the same network. It's not a bad thing people There are tons of mixed networks out there. There's a reason for that. ----------------- 10) We, as in the entire OSS/Linux community need to start touting the positives WITHOUT sounding pompous. Security, less viruses, etc. ---------------- Sorry for the horrible formatting. I don't know why it formats like crap on the forums [/quote] Totally agree with these points. I was gonna say something smart, but by the time I finished arranging the quote, I forgot. I think that's also why many people are put off by Linux. It can be great once you set it up, but by the time you go through all the help forums, you just get tired of trying. It's even more complicated than searching for drivers for Windows. And if you guys can't fix the formatting on a forum, who's gonna believe you?

(Could somebody please fix the quoting on this forum? Cause it really sucks when you try to arrange your post so it's easy to read and it turns up without any breaks between paragraphs. Especially when multi-quoting like Mike often does... :)

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Drake
Joined Apr 07, 2009
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Posted: Apr 20, 2009 6:40:38 PM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
People that hate linux are the ones that don't like change. But linux does lack in a couple areas. But overall Linux is better. Waiting for gaming to come. There are some cool games already but more are needed. personally I like starcraft and warcraft and wine does not fullfill my needs . 70% why i like linux is Variety. Without it I probably stay with windows. But here to many people that want to shrink the number of distro . I strongly disagree . Don't start thinking like windows. Dont limit one self. Why cant there be 1000 linux distro . It OPEN source . variety is what keep me in linux . VARIETY is a good thing. brings new ideas. Yes there some inconvenience but in time solutions will come. What if one person hate pizza and icecream, he control what option you had to eat. So no pizza or icecream on the menu . Now what are you going to do . with many distro encountering problems gives many option. It what type of fries do you like , normal fries , curl fries , home fries , season fries. What your favorite option. There can never be a perfect Distro , Window Manger/Desktop , and Etc. Someone going to like and others are going to hate it. Some people want to be different and other want to see if grass is greener on the other side. Some people want to know what i can do. How do i feel today. Just so many reason to have so many flavors. People are more product doing what the like and tend to spend more time at it. i do perfer lite distro over heavy ones and Speed is nice.
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chaotikcore
Joined Apr 14, 2009
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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 12:12:54 AM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
Jeez, People who hate Linux,people who hate Windows "Software Wars" .My God.If you want to sound intelligent and have a useful discussion then maybe some of you have to look at both side because there is never just one.Take for instance..Windows,yes it is a proprietary and for the most part very overloaded and very susceptible to attacks OS.It doe's have it's uses and I'm not going to stop using it because it's not under the GNU.After all I refuse to work all day and not get payed (are you?) for it because that is pretty much what this "software war" is about.The again i love being able to apt-get any prog i want with Linux along with the added comfort of having a more secure system.Even though I have hell with devices(that just works in Windows). My point is quit complaining and use what you enjoy.If you hate all things open-source or you hate all things proprietary the only solution is simply don't use it.
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Mike
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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 2:50:05 AM
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Chaotikcore: There is no "software war". And there are paid linux developers. So right there your argument fails. There is no reason why Windows and Linux can't co-exist in the world. Hell, lots of companies run hybrid networks. The problem is that Windows is so inherently vulnerable to viruses and trojans. Both OS' have their pros and cons. I prefer Linux. I have a Windows box too for things I need Windows for. The main hate towards Window isn't that it's under the GPL (not GNU, so that argument fails too..so now you fail). It's that way MS won't patch vulnerabilities as soon as they discover them and MS' bad business practices.
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francek

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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 1:41:38 PM
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Besides, many people say Linux is better because it's free. First of all, I sometimes use a Linux version because some functions really are much more advanced than Windows. But it also has so many bugs and incompatibilities I would consider it a crime if they started selling any version of Linux. And second, I have never in my life heard of somebody actually buying Windows (unless it's for a company or is preinstalled on a new computer.) In fact, there are so many hybrid versions of Windows available, it's almost unbelievable. Conclusion: Both suck in many, many ways. Both also have many good qualities. Both are free. My point is - enjoy the choice.

(Could somebody please fix the quoting on this forum? Cause it really sucks when you try to arrange your post so it's easy to read and it turns up without any breaks between paragraphs. Especially when multi-quoting like Mike often does... :)

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Mike
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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 3:49:41 PM
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What's a hybrid version of windows?
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francek

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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 4:12:11 PM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
Well, I don't really know if it's the right way to call it, but it's when somebody makes a bootable image of Windows but with some added or removed components, e.g. I acquired a version where the default browser was already Firefox, there was a registry cleaner, an image burner, etc., preinstalled into the .iso file. Maybe it's better to call it something else then hybrid.

(Could somebody please fix the quoting on this forum? Cause it really sucks when you try to arrange your post so it's easy to read and it turns up without any breaks between paragraphs. Especially when multi-quoting like Mike often does... :)

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Mike
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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 4:42:10 PM
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You mean like....a custom install? And, at risk of rehashing yet another argument, what do you mean by bugs and incompatibilities in Linux? I've been running different versions of Linux for the last 10+ years and it's come a long way and it's quite solid. If IBM is selling it to business customers, surely it can't be that bad. And Red Hat and Suse both do sell Linux versions. Both are enterprise products licensed under the GPL. Please check your facts before posting nonsense.
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Rubberman
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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 4:54:00 PM
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Companies that require 365x24 operations of their enterprise servers use either Big Iron (IBM, HP, Sun) running Unix/Linux of some sort, or tons of blade servers running x86 versions of Linux. Windows servers aren't even on the chart, for the most part. I have worked with Windows, Unix, Linux, and other proprietary systems as a software engineer for over 25 years, and I am impressed with how solid and stable Linux is. That's why my business servers and workstations are all running Linux these days, and my laptop is going that way as soon as my new system drive arrives later today.

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francek

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Posted: Apr 28, 2009 5:24:48 PM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
Here is a link to a great article called "The Truth About Linux Hardware Compatibility" http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200812/pij_12_04_08a.html It explains very clearly why some people get to hate Linux.

(Could somebody please fix the quoting on this forum? Cause it really sucks when you try to arrange your post so it's easy to read and it turns up without any breaks between paragraphs. Especially when multi-quoting like Mike often does... :)

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Mike
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Posted: Apr 29, 2009 2:19:27 AM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
That article just basically says it won't auto detect and odd ball hardware isn't alwaya 100% compatible. But neither is it in Windows. You still need the drivers. It's not Linux's fault that drivers aren't written for the kernel, even though a lot of developers do try. The hardest part of hardware I have w/ Linux is wireless networking. But then again, that doesn't always work well in Windows either.
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francek

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Posted: Apr 29, 2009 9:09:45 AM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
I admit that finding drivers for Windows is one of the most annoying things I can imagine. I install a fresh copy, then I remember I lost the CD with the drivers, and I bang my head on the wall. And I hate sites which keep empty zip files (they exist, believe me) claiming they contain drivers just so they would have more traffic. Howeva, it is possible, even with a great deal of trouble, to download your drivers for free. Now, say I wanted to try out Linux and find out that my wlan card isn't compatible. Do you know of someplace I could download another wlan card for free :?

(Could somebody please fix the quoting on this forum? Cause it really sucks when you try to arrange your post so it's easy to read and it turns up without any breaks between paragraphs. Especially when multi-quoting like Mike often does... :)

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NoWarez2
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Posted: Apr 29, 2009 9:34:06 AM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
If you start too use Ubuntu 9.04 it's many drivers for WLAN:D

Hi My name is NoWarez2 xD Linux ROOOOOX !!!! OWNS THE SHIT OUT OF WINDOWS

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francek

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Posted: Apr 29, 2009 10:46:26 AM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
Thanks, but I'll stick to BackTrack. I don't have any trouble with wlan, I was just making a point.

(Could somebody please fix the quoting on this forum? Cause it really sucks when you try to arrange your post so it's easy to read and it turns up without any breaks between paragraphs. Especially when multi-quoting like Mike often does... :)

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Mike
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Posted: Apr 29, 2009 1:29:52 PM
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http://www.linux-drivers.org/network.html
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francek

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Posted: Apr 29, 2009 7:12:03 PM
Subject: People That Hate Linux
Good example. It says there: "Linux wireless LAN support - is an attempt to create a, more or less complete listing of wireless devices with information about the chipset they are based on and whether or not they are supported in Linux."

(Could somebody please fix the quoting on this forum? Cause it really sucks when you try to arrange your post so it's easy to read and it turns up without any breaks between paragraphs. Especially when multi-quoting like Mike often does... :)

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NoWarez2
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Posted: May 04, 2009 11:31:09 AM
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i have foundout that over 1% of all computers in the world are running GNU/Linux :D

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