February 5, 2001

Software Firm censoring exploits

Author: JT Smith

Stephen K. Gielda of the Church of the Swimming Elephant says that he's been threatened with censorship by a software company whose bugs have become the focus of one of COTSE's exploits. Newsforge did not see any of these alleged threats from the software company, so they are just that: alleged. Here's what Steve wrote:"Software Firm threatens packetderm.cotse.com because of bug dated back 1999 !!! These guys (NetcPlus Internet Solutions, Inc., http://www.netcplus.com) are saying that they will bring a legal case if the info on this bug is not removed from this site (http://packetderm.cotse.com/mailing-lists/bugtraq /1999/1450.html).

Read it in Usenet (alt.computer.security, thread 'I have a company demanding that we remove an archived bugtraq post', dated February 2). Censorship in it's dumbest form.

Usenet post: The company is NetcPlus Internet Solutions, Inc. This is part of the response they sent me:

"Just remove it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a) well too old, and b) WRONG !!!!!!!!!! Also, we take a pretty dim view of your actually publishing the code needed to break all this software. You are just saving the hackers of the world the time to work it out themselves. Why on earth would anyone do that, unless of course they support OTHER hackers."

The archived bugtraq post he is referring to is: http://packetderm.cotse.com/mailing-lists/bugtraq/ 1999/1450.html

The same archive also exists here: http://security-archive.merton.ox.ac.uk/bugtraq-19 9909/0247.html

http://lists.insecure.org/bugtraq/1999/Sep/0243.ht ml

http://www.shmoo.com/mail/bugtraq/sep99/msg00388.h tml

http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/199 9-q3/0915.html

http://www.securityfocus.com/templates/archive.pik e?list=1&msg=

So, should I let this one run to court? Or should I just remove the

Stephen K. Gielda
The Church of the Swimming Elephant
Have you gone to church today?

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